Thursday, September 15, 2011

No more JEE- IITs/NITs to have aptitude test

The IIT Council has decided in favour of a common aptitude test for IITs/NITs and all state government and private engineering colleges, TOI reports.

The exam will replace the current JEE. The Council favours giving due weightages to the aptitude test and standard XII marks. This is subject to the approval of the finance ministry and, in the case of state government colleges, to approval by the states. If it goes through, this will be a huge relief to thousands of engineering aspirants in the country and, of course, a massive blow to private tutorial colleges for the JEE.

The Council also decided to retain the IIT fee at Rs 50,000 per year but will require those with a family income of over Rs 4 lakh to cough up an additional amount totalling to about Rs 6 lakh for the course once they take up a job. There will be exemptions to those pursing M Tech or Ph D courses. The modalities of recovering the fee from salaries is to be worked out.

The change in the exam format and the idea of a common exam for all engineering colleges are both to be lauded. But I have to wonder: how is it that initiatives such as these emanate from the ministry and not the IITs themselves? Why do the IITs have to be prodded towards doing the sensible thing by students and the education system?

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

That's sad - the best part of the IIT system used to be the JEE!

Yeah, we need a common test, etc. So, its all justified I suppose. I don't contest that.

But, I would still feel sad about moving away from the fantastic JEE format. So, I propose that the current JEE be continued for use by the IITs for scholarship determination in the first year of BTech (after admission). Or, maybe use it for national science scholarships or something along those lines.

Dheeraj Sanghi said...

The council has not taken any final decision. The exact modalities of the alternative are yet to be worked out.

sujatha said...

Perhaps IIT's want to maintain the niche they have carved for themselves and do not want to be herded with the rest.

sujatha said...

Perhaps IIT's want to maintain the niche they have carved for themselves and do not want to be herded with the rest.

Anonymous said...

Why only IITs, even IIMs have to be proded to conduct themselves sensibly. NO?
- Ketan

Anonymous said...

I hope that IIT professors will do something about it. This will destroy the system. SAT score is not reflective of mathematical ability which you need to excel at IIT and beyond. All Comaprisions to US are meaningless. Over there, the competition starts at PG level and not UG.

Also Board marks are sold in states like Bihar. Normalization of scores is impossible.

Good to see Prof. Sanghi responding to this.

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saurav gupta(IITD) said...

come on,this is india not US.I am sure the top 3000 people in jee would easily score full marks in that bullshit aptitude test as they still do in SAT for US univs.I mean,COME ON ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?This is fucking going to the dogs.

Saurav Gupta
IIT Delhi

Photo Blogger said...

I appeared for my Class 12 examinations around 10 years ago.
Question papers were leaked, cheating was rampant in examination halls and when board authorities were notified, they were only interested in suppressing the matter as quickly as possible - and were trying to create problems for honest people who complained. That was the supposedly respectable ICSE/ISC Board - not even some State / Local board.
If IIT Directors and Professors claim to have some autonomy as they do in the article below, they should put their foot down. But then of course, the JEE needs changes of some other kind as well.
Why not just have a reasonably high cutoff percentage like say 75-80% for board examinations ? That way you make sure that students take their schooling seriously. For boards where it is much tougher to score make the cutoff say 70%. Setting cutoffs like this is much easier than making a normalized rank list.

IIT claims to have enough autonomy

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Krishnan said...

Brilliant. Make the IIT's just like any other. Looks like some politician who graduated from some IIT years ago and complained that there is nothing special about the IIT's gets his revenge on the IIT. So, next? The IIM's? Why not? Just because they are "post graduate"??

Here are some ideas. Committees can decide that it takes too long for students to get engineering (or management) degrees - and they should (by decree) change the graduation requirements such that anyone can get a degree in say 2 years - bingo, cost is cut by 50% for all - It is unfair that students are asked to pay for 4 years.

Next, they should double the number of colleges and universities overnight and allow anyone to go to college/university - It is only fair - how dare do colleges and universities discriminate using exams that seem to stop the many from getting a college education.

They can also reduce the number of years in High School - reduce the number of courses taken and so on.

Very soon we will have a nation of very highly educated citizens who will create the world of tomorrow through innovation and entrepreneurship.

Oh, dont worry - the US is far ahead of India in this regard - politicians and administrators are hard at work to make it easy for anyone to go to college and get that magical degree so they can immediately earn whatever they demand.

Richa said...

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Anonymous said...

Board exams marks are not the right criteria for selecting students. Different boards have different way of giving marks. Also aptitude test is not the right way to measure mathematical and scientific talent. Science requires lot of patience and concentration. I am sure that lot of guys who will solve aptitude test and get selected will not have any interest in maths /science.